Friday, August 3, 2007

Pandora's Box

In one of my first entries about our renovations, I mentioned hoping that I hadn't opened Pandora's Box. Consider it opened.

My parents were here all of last week, and Aaron's dad was up for a couple of days. It was decided that the front yard would have to be pulled back to fix the cracks in the foundation...which meant the front step would have to go.
Before:

After:


This was good news for Aaron, who has hated those steps since we first bought the house. The bad news is that, after jackhammering and hauling all that concrete to the dump, we found a different, and likely equally effective, way of dealing with the cracks from the INSIDE. So, now the front yard needs a little landscaping (remove those thirsty flower beds from the edge of the house, and we will be replacing the steps with a narrow veranda that will run nearly the entire length of the house...CUTE!!)

Back to the inside...ok, so the walls will get the special crack-fill procedure, and will get inside weeping tile, including a drainage trench around the outside edge of the floor...ah, yes, the floor...

We called in a concrete guy to look at things, and he gave us two options (which we had already figured out ourselves, since we're so smart).

Option 1: Pour a new layer of concrete over the existing floor to even everything out. Now the pros of this would be that there would be little to no prep work required. The cons would be that any structural problems under the existing floor would probably continue, and eventually, even quickly compromise the quality of the new pour. Also, we would lose even more head room in the basement, which is not really an option, considering Aaron's height.

Option 2: Remove the existing concrete, prep the "dirt" underneath, install new re bar, and re pour the entire floor. Pros: A new, properly installed floor that we wouldn't have to worry about. It wouldn't cost much more than the new layer, as concrete needs to be a certain thickness for the necessary strength, anyways. We would stand to GAIN headroom in the basement, as the floor would now be even. The cons: Jackhammering and hauling out 6-7 cubic yards of concrete. Doing the prep work and re bar installation.

Well, following our "Might as well" mantra, and Mike Holmes' advice to "Make it right," we are going with option 2. After considering many, many, MANY options regarding the jackhammering, the removing of the concrete from the basement up to the yard, and how to get the concrete from the yard to the dump, here's what we came up with:

1. Aaron bought a jackhammer. Yes, he did. It was used and cost about the same as renting one for 6 days. We can sell it to the Home Hardware here in town when we're done with it, and they will use it as a rental.

2. Hauling concrete up a flight of stairs SUCKS. This was the most disheartening part of the whole process. It just seemed to be taking forever, and as of yesterday morning, we had resigned ourselves to the fact that we would have to pay some students (which a., costs a lot of money...any labour is not cheap in Alberta right now and b., is not the best option as students tend not to be as motivated as SOME adults to get the job done). BUT help arrived. Yesterday afternoon, our friend Philip came over and after supper, he and Aaron hauled some serious butt, and got the 1/4 of the basement that had been jackhammered CLEARED of concrete in just over 1 1/2 hours. THANK YOU, PHILIP, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!!!! I honestly don't think words can say how much it helped to have that part of the job done, and to have the renewed confidence that this is DOABLE.

3. Once the concrete is out of the basement, we'll get a landscaping company to bring a Bobcat and a dump truck to load it up and take it to the dump. We thought about buying a truck temporarily, but I think hiring someone is the better option here.

I know you've all been DYING to see pictures...haha...so here are a few.

The concrete at the top of the picture was about 4" thick. The concrete at the bottom of the picture, where there was a BIG hump in the floor, was about 1/2" thick.



Aaron's new toy... :S



A BIG piece of concrete coming out...



...and the hole it left.



Aaron hauling the first 2 pieces of concrete...the first of MANY.



The first section (about 1/4 of the basement) is DONE...except a little work around the edges.


The pile of concrete that came out of that space


I think Suki thinks we've just built her a giant litter box!

12 comments:

Jim Thomsen said...

Aaron looks pretty handy with that big long thing between his legs. :)

It's scary how "new" things seem to pop up nonstop in your house. You might as well light a match and start over from scratch!

Seriously, now I feel REALLY guilty that I've had to cancel my visit. Soon, though!

Marisa said...

Wow. I'm sending you patience.

Kelsie-lou said...

Haha! I was thinking he would not want me to post that picture for that very reason....but he didn't care...

As far as the "new" things, it all seems to snowball off of one thing. We'll get this basement wrapped up eventually, and things will be quiet for a while, then we'll open a new can of worms....the upside is, however, that I don't think there's much of the guts of this house that we haven't seen, or at least seen a sample of.

It's ok, Jim. We'll be ready for you whenever it works out. We were both disappointed, though...I won't lie (because I read your blog about lying). To be honest, Aaron found out you weren't coming at the height of his overwhelmedness about hauling out the concrete...but now that Philip helped him plow through that one area, he feels more confident...

I'll look for my patience in the mail, Reese!

Jim Thomsen said...

The guilt, the guilt ....

You know, I would come if I thought I was getting my headline-writing bonus in time. Sigh.

Kelsie-lou said...

No guilt....and now you can come and not have to dread hauling concrete up a flight of stairs!!!

Roxy said...

Wow.....that's alot of concrete! I'm sorry you two...I had one of those basements in the very first house we lived in, in Alberta. I think it's standard issue for those old ones. We just moved out and in to another one instead...eventually the farm tore it down. Just keep remembering how nice the basement will be when you're done....:)

Kelsie-lou said...

yah, I'm keeping the picture in my mind...the next step I'm dreading is DRYWALL...all that dust...

There wasn't even any re bar or ANYTHING supporting the concrete. That's why it was buckling so much.

Marisa said...

ridiculous. whoever built the house in the first place should be subject to lying in the front yard of your house as the base for the concrete pile.

Steph said...
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Kelsie-lou said...

I think monkeys built it. Though I've heard other opinions...some people say it must have been Ukrainians!!!

Hey, I can see the homeless shelter that Hilary Duff was at on Wednesday night from the window...I feel special.

Anonymous said...

Crazy -- I just stumbled upon you blog when googling something like "remove and re-pour cement basement floor".. We live in Edmonton and own an old 1918 fixer-upper -- we've done abunch of renos already, but now hope to 'finish' the basement and may end up doing the same job to our crumbly, damp, uneven old slab :( so am very interested in learning from your experience. keep up all your hard work :)

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